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      Living Room Etiquette   07/25/17

      Welcome to my living room on the internet.   Let me talk a little bit about the history of my home on the internet. I started out blogging on LiveJournal, which is a blogging community. And I talked about publishing and process, but in a fairly general way.   And that worked for a number of years.   What I almost never talked about was my books. But over time, people found my LJ, and they wanted to talk about my books, and I felt a little self-conscious talking about my books on LiveJournal, where the community was more general and more social, and talking about my books felt a little conspicuously like shouting: Me Me Me!   So: I started my author web-site. I posted sample chapters. I talked--when I had any news--about my books. I didn't post often, because I didn't want to drive people who came to the web-site purely for news or information away.   And that seemed to work.   But a funny thing happened. I'm not, and have never been, Robert Jordan, George Martin or Patrick Rothfuss in terms of my reach. I don't have the kind of buzz they generate, and I'm fine with that. I'm not Misty Lackey or Melanie Rawn, either.   I write my books. I try not to say too much about them, because some people hate spoilers. I try not to complain too much about the process, because every job anywhere is difficult sometimes. But… I can't really talk about my books as if I were a reader, because I can't ever approach them as a reader would for the first time. Or even the twentieth.   And sometimes people want to talk about the experience of reading my books. But given my general invisibility on fantasy reader radars, they haven't found many places in which they can do that.   A few years ago, my readers began to talk to each other - on my web-site, because they found people who were also interested in talking about my books there. On a release-day post about the latest novel. This made some readers unhappy because of course discussing the books meant spoilers. I then made a separate SPOILER thread, which people could easily avoid.   That worked, and I made a spoiler thread for almost every subsequent book.   So readers who wanted to discuss the book with other readers spoke to each other on the spoiler threads. I stay out of the spoiler threads. I stay out of the discussions about my books. And I've been able to do that because, while people don't always agree, they don't descend into acrimony and flames.   But the spoiler thread for Cast in Peril was 369 comments long. And that's a lot of comments, and possibly a long load time.   And I thought: maybe it's time to try forums.   I wouldn't have considered forums at all if the spoiler threads had descended into invective and angry ranting; they never have. The people who post and discuss on them have been helpful and reasonable, even when they don't agree with each other.   And what I want out of forums is for that to continue. I don't expect my forums to be crowded; I don't expect that they'll need to be moderated or policed, because of the history of the readers who have posted on my web-site.   But forums in general have rules and policies, and it's best to be clear about those up front, in case of future need. So.   The Living Room rules:   1. Since it's my Living Room, there's a strong possibility that children and grandmothers will stroll past or stop in, since both frequent my house. So I'd ask you to keep that in mind when it comes to profanity. Swear as much as I do.   2. Door to door salesmen frequently interrupt social gatherings, and they're not there to join the discussion. So: don't be that person. This isn't a tupperware party, and I don't want anyone to attempt to sell things to my visitors. If you notice that someone is advertising cheap watches or winning lottery numbers or any variant thereof, report it - and ignore it. It'll be cleaned up and swept out the door.   3. No flaming. Which is to say: no personal attacks or insults. I don't expect this will be a problem because it hasn't been - and I'd really like that to continue. Also, and this is a personal thing: don't accuse someone of trolling just because they disagree with you. Sometimes people disagree; they're not doing it to enrage or derail.   4. Things NOT to discuss on these forums: Real-world religions (any). Real-world politics (any). Explicit sexuality (because: children & grandmothers. And, to be fair, me). There are many other places to discuss any of these things - and I ask that you discuss them there. Here is not the place. This is possibly the only thing I'll be draconian about.   If, in the opinion of the management, you break these rules, we'll probably ask you to sit out the topic. If you break these rules more than once, we may ask you to sit out the week. If you can't communicate without breaking these rules, this is not the forum for you; there are lots of forums on the internet that will be more to your liking.   Also: I believe that readers should be able to discuss what they want to discuss, even if what they want to discuss is how a particular book I've written didn't work for them. For obvious reasons, I would like to personally avoid those discussions because I don't want to be a damper, and because it's not possible for me to be consistently objective about my own work. It's not entirely possible to avoid these discussions on the web-site; on the forums it will be. I've asked Tchula Ripton to moderate, as she's been the list-mom on the Yahoo West list for a number of years.   So on those parts of the forum where the discussions are about my works, she wears the big hat where necessary, because I'm not there.   As for the forums: any member can create topics, and any member can read any forum and reply there. If, for instance, you want to get people's opinions on ebook readers, you can start a post in the “Random†category, and ask.
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Ehtiar    106

Finished the kindle version on the day, still waiting on my dead tree copy to actually arrive...

 

So now we know what a certain dragon has been spending time on... and who gets to start shipping the different dragons of the court after Helen's "The Emperor isn't really a good match for her.."?

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Aquilegia    26

Finished the kindle version on the day, still waiting on my dead tree copy to actually arrive...

 

So now we know what a certain dragon has been spending time on... and who gets to start shipping the different dragons of the court after Helen's "The Emperor isn't really a good match for her.."?

Several other choices were also eliminated. I am thinking Emmerain. Specifically because he was not an option that was even considered, much less rejected. I also noticed that it was the only time Sanablis was mentioned in the entire book. Was he still recuperating or something?

 

It was interesting to consider Moran's backstory. It makes me wonder if that is similar to how Kaylin might have been forced to live if her marks were treated with the same level of respect. Like Belusdeo wants.

 

When they travelled to the West March, Teela had several dresses made for Kaylin, where did they all go? Why does she never seem to have a dress? Was the journey back harrowing enough that they got destroyed, or did Teela take them back for some reason? And while I am complaining about things just disappearing, what happened to the beaded hawk that Evanston made her?

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Cath    4

Did anyone's luggage actually make it to the West March, let along back to the city?

 

Kaylin's next visit to Tiamaris could be interesting.

 

I hope Grethan is learning fast.

 

At least her work with the midwives hasn't been lost.  Sometimes I forget how little time happens in the books between books, so to speak. 

 

Emmerian seems obvious now.  Too obvious?  There's no hurry, after all.  (I kind of wonder how they will manage if/when there are dragon eggs to hatch - where?  With what guards? What teachers?  There are so few dragons that we know of.  Hatchlings would be a great temptation to the dragon in/of Ravellon.)

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Ehtiar    106

Heh, I just sat down and went through the series trying to nail down the time line and the passage of it between the books.

 

So if the story in each book roughly covers 2 days to a week, lets be generous and say 4 days on average (apart from the Peril/Sorrow combo that has about 7 weeks of travel time included) and as far as I could establish the following is the rough gaps between the books: 
CinShadow > 2-3 weeks > CinCourtlight > 2-3 weeks > CinSecret > 1 week > CinFury > 2-3 weeks > CinSilence > 1-2 weeks > CinChaos > day and a half > CinRuin > 10 days > CinPeril > no time > CinSorrow > 3-4 weeks > CinFlame > 3 weeks > CinHonor > 1 week? > CinFlight

 

So, again being generous, this means that the total time passed since Kaylin got sent back to the fiefs, re-met Severn, met Tiamaris for the first time and was marked by Nightshade is roughly 32 weeks. Just about half a year for everyone to adjust to all the changes.  You can see why that amount of world-changing events happening can get Teela and Tain to start questioning the validity of boredom.

 

Although at this rate, I would expect the Human Court to start having their own spies picking up certain details and asking questions about Kaylin being at the heart of so much, even with the Dragons and Baranni trying to keep their secrets. Politics after all is constantly going on....Especially after several near city destroying moments.

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Aquilegia    26

Did anyone's luggage actually make it to the West March, let along back to the city?

 

At the end of CiSorrow

She rose and dressed, and this time, she took clothing from the pack leaning at a tilt against the far wall.

So it survived the journey there.

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Cath    4

Fancy dresses in a pack?  oh dear.  Somehow I always felt sure Kaylin had sneaked her regular clothes in using the pack.  ;)

 

The Human Caste Court was referred to a couple of times as being nothing but merchants or some such, in different books; I wonder if its politics will grow more complicated at some point?

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Aquilegia    26

Fancy dresses in a pack?  oh dear.  Somehow I always felt sure Kaylin had sneaked her regular clothes in using the pack.  ;)

 

Oh, I know. The very idea of putting court dresses in a knapsack makes the costumer in me shudder in horror. But, how else are they going to be transported? It hardly sounds like they travelled with large trunks and retinues of servants to take care of all the pesky details like creases in cloth. I just assumed that this is fantasy world magic silk, and along with being super strong, it is super light, even the beading and embroidery, and doesn't crease.

 

Some of their equipment was probably abandoned with Bertolle along with the horses and carriages and such. But I would imagine that they would retrieve it on the way back.

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Cath    4

Really I should go back and review that.  I had a vague idea that her things were being packed with Teela's, in a trunk on a carriage.  But they may have counted on the hospitality where they stayed taking care of any cleaning and mending and so on that needed to be done, rather than packing lots of stuff.

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