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      Living Room Etiquette   07/25/17

      Welcome to my living room on the internet.   Let me talk a little bit about the history of my home on the internet. I started out blogging on LiveJournal, which is a blogging community. And I talked about publishing and process, but in a fairly general way.   And that worked for a number of years.   What I almost never talked about was my books. But over time, people found my LJ, and they wanted to talk about my books, and I felt a little self-conscious talking about my books on LiveJournal, where the community was more general and more social, and talking about my books felt a little conspicuously like shouting: Me Me Me!   So: I started my author web-site. I posted sample chapters. I talked--when I had any news--about my books. I didn't post often, because I didn't want to drive people who came to the web-site purely for news or information away.   And that seemed to work.   But a funny thing happened. I'm not, and have never been, Robert Jordan, George Martin or Patrick Rothfuss in terms of my reach. I don't have the kind of buzz they generate, and I'm fine with that. I'm not Misty Lackey or Melanie Rawn, either.   I write my books. I try not to say too much about them, because some people hate spoilers. I try not to complain too much about the process, because every job anywhere is difficult sometimes. But… I can't really talk about my books as if I were a reader, because I can't ever approach them as a reader would for the first time. Or even the twentieth.   And sometimes people want to talk about the experience of reading my books. But given my general invisibility on fantasy reader radars, they haven't found many places in which they can do that.   A few years ago, my readers began to talk to each other - on my web-site, because they found people who were also interested in talking about my books there. On a release-day post about the latest novel. This made some readers unhappy because of course discussing the books meant spoilers. I then made a separate SPOILER thread, which people could easily avoid.   That worked, and I made a spoiler thread for almost every subsequent book.   So readers who wanted to discuss the book with other readers spoke to each other on the spoiler threads. I stay out of the spoiler threads. I stay out of the discussions about my books. And I've been able to do that because, while people don't always agree, they don't descend into acrimony and flames.   But the spoiler thread for Cast in Peril was 369 comments long. And that's a lot of comments, and possibly a long load time.   And I thought: maybe it's time to try forums.   I wouldn't have considered forums at all if the spoiler threads had descended into invective and angry ranting; they never have. The people who post and discuss on them have been helpful and reasonable, even when they don't agree with each other.   And what I want out of forums is for that to continue. I don't expect my forums to be crowded; I don't expect that they'll need to be moderated or policed, because of the history of the readers who have posted on my web-site.   But forums in general have rules and policies, and it's best to be clear about those up front, in case of future need. So.   The Living Room rules:   1. Since it's my Living Room, there's a strong possibility that children and grandmothers will stroll past or stop in, since both frequent my house. So I'd ask you to keep that in mind when it comes to profanity. Swear as much as I do.   2. Door to door salesmen frequently interrupt social gatherings, and they're not there to join the discussion. So: don't be that person. This isn't a tupperware party, and I don't want anyone to attempt to sell things to my visitors. If you notice that someone is advertising cheap watches or winning lottery numbers or any variant thereof, report it - and ignore it. It'll be cleaned up and swept out the door.   3. No flaming. Which is to say: no personal attacks or insults. I don't expect this will be a problem because it hasn't been - and I'd really like that to continue. Also, and this is a personal thing: don't accuse someone of trolling just because they disagree with you. Sometimes people disagree; they're not doing it to enrage or derail.   4. Things NOT to discuss on these forums: Real-world religions (any). Real-world politics (any). Explicit sexuality (because: children & grandmothers. And, to be fair, me). There are many other places to discuss any of these things - and I ask that you discuss them there. Here is not the place. This is possibly the only thing I'll be draconian about.   If, in the opinion of the management, you break these rules, we'll probably ask you to sit out the topic. If you break these rules more than once, we may ask you to sit out the week. If you can't communicate without breaking these rules, this is not the forum for you; there are lots of forums on the internet that will be more to your liking.   Also: I believe that readers should be able to discuss what they want to discuss, even if what they want to discuss is how a particular book I've written didn't work for them. For obvious reasons, I would like to personally avoid those discussions because I don't want to be a damper, and because it's not possible for me to be consistently objective about my own work. It's not entirely possible to avoid these discussions on the web-site; on the forums it will be. I've asked Tchula Ripton to moderate, as she's been the list-mom on the Yahoo West list for a number of years.   So on those parts of the forum where the discussions are about my works, she wears the big hat where necessary, because I'm not there.   As for the forums: any member can create topics, and any member can read any forum and reply there. If, for instance, you want to get people's opinions on ebook readers, you can start a post in the “Random†category, and ask.

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Andruid    22

This thread will probably not survive for too long......but I am hoping this is where you will come to get the bad things off your chest or mind without hurting anyone.........

 

 

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Andruid    22

Currently hating Amazon because the e-book of Sorrow not out until November and Peril is released 1st of October..........obviously I have a love/hate relationship with Amazon...........

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Tchula    16

Umm...I preordered the ebook of Sorrow on Kindle months ago and it downloaded for me right on the release date (8/27).  I did have to go to my account and "send" it to my device though.  Have you checked to see if it's already part of your cloud, but just hasn't auto-downloaded to your device?

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Ehtiar    106

Kindle releases can be a bit off if you're in the UK. I always try to buy my kindle releases from Amazon US. 

Back in the day I got my mother a kindle that had to be shipped over from the States since her mobility issues were hitting her hands and making it awkward to hold books and turn pages, so that was always linked to the US site. Since I've used both to buy other things, I've found it simpler to link my kindle for pc to the US site as well.

 

Of course, sometimes they'll pick up on you being from the UK and won't show Kindle releases that won't get released over in Europe for awhile.

I ended up getting an epub version of Sorrow via Harlequin.

 

On the venting side (and non literary) I'm annoyed because my Saints Row IV pre-order got cancelled 3 days before the release. For some totally bizarre reason there are absolutely no physical copies of the PC version available throughout the UK. If I want to play the game at the moment, I have to spend £6 /$10 more and get the digital download version.  So .. not having a physical disk & case costs more. >_<

And there's no explanation for WHY there's no physical copies available. I could buy one from the US and get it shipped across, but that would take another week or so and cost even more.  Dammit Deep Silver! I want to give you my money but you won't provide the gorram game except through download!

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Ehtiar    106

Ahhhh!!

 

Half the girls I know are ridiculously excited because they've announced the actor who is going to play the lead part in the film adaption of Fifty Shades of Grey.

I'm like "But..but.. the books are bad!! They're badly written! They're badly edited! They're bad bdsm!!"  and my friends are all "We don't care. He's hot!!" <_<

 

I don't know, there's something about them that just set me off. Partially that they started off as Twilight fanfiction erotica, and then a publisher basically said "Change the names so it won't fall under copyright and I'll publish them"... and partially because they are just sooo damn bad. Also, I find it just a wee bit scary how so many people got into them, and are doing the dabbling toes in the water of those areas because it's really not well done.

 

Hm, now I'll apologise if this is wandering into dangerous territory but I just have to follow that rant with a quote from a blog article concerning those books:

 

 


  "It's not even that it's about BDSM - it's just that the writing is so damn bad and it's SO misleading… Ok, so I read a *little* of it. The thing is, Bella is reading it - and getting very turned on by it. She admits herself that it's awful and that the writing is the sort of thing a 9-year-old turns out… but the situation is hot and she enjoys the fact that the main character act a lot like I do at times. The thing is, she's educated about the reality of BDSM, she has no illusions about it. So many women (say the 100's of thousands who've bought the books) have NO idea about the real ways that BDSM works… And I'm worried that a lot of these women (and girls) are going to be taken advantage of, or worse, because of their interest in the lifestyle.

You see, if I'm honest about it, about 70% of the men who *claim* to be dominants are really just assholes who like to hit girls and claim that it's kinky. And I know that these guys are all just rubbing their hands together in glee at the idea of all this fresh meat coming into the lifestyle; girls they can abuse, slap around and do god knows what to but who don't know any better. This idea scares the SHIT out of me. I feel like its akin to giving a gun to kids who don't really understand that it fires real bullets. Anyone who's older and educated about it (like Bella or other friends of mine) will be fine - it's puerile and stupid, but kind of a turn-on. For so many women though, they have no idea of the risks, the nature of consensual non-consent or the safety precautions necessary in BDSM. All of this together makes this, in my view, a catastrophe waiting to happen."

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michelle    51

 

Hm, now I'll apologise if this is wandering into dangerous territory but I just have to follow that rant with a quote from a blog article concerning those books:

 

It's edging into territory I'd prefer not to enter. I understand all of the reasons why Twilight and etc., are considered harmful; I also understand why the opposite is true (if you have a young woman who refuses to read, Twilight almost always grabs them). But the discussion of the accuracy of BDSM as presented in 50 Shades is granular enough I'd ask that it be left to boards in which BDSM is the more prominent, expert discussion.

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Ehtiar    106

Certainly.

 

Heh, I'm still amused by the point out that the relationship in Twilight between Edward and Bella in Twilight meet all 15 criteria set by the National Domestic Violence hotline for being in an abusive relationship.

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Andruid    22

I just find it truly scary that a lot of people will take anything written in a fiction novel to be a fair and accurate description or depiction of something. :ph34r:

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Ehtiar    106

My sister recently moved into a new place, and she did a flying visit here to day..

 

Apparently she's got a creepy neighbour with no social skills who stares at the windows from a distance and sets her dog barking. Along with such things as trying to talk to her with lines of "oh, I love dogs. If you're having trouble getting time, feel free to give me a key to your place and I'll go in and take him out for a walk during the day when you're at work."  blink.png

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Andruid    22

My sister recently moved into a new place, and she did a flying visit here to day..

 

Apparently she's got a creepy neighbour with no social skills who stares at the windows from a distance and sets her dog barking. Along with such things as trying to talk to her with lines of "oh, I love dogs. If you're having trouble getting time, feel free to give me a key to your place and I'll go in and take him out for a walk during the day when you're at work."  blink.png

:ph34r::blink::huh: ..........you are joking.......seriously?  I would be tempted to offer your sister a couple or ten supersoakers and a metric-****-tonne of zip ties and handcuffs.......but that would be solely due to the fact that I use those on people who annoy me......and.....only because security confiscated my catapults and caltrops... :blink:

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Andruid    22

:angry::unsure::blink::ph34r:  Results are in.......not only do I have to be vegan.....one without chocolate, cocoa, carob, caffeine, alcohol, tannin, legumes, nuts, rye, fructose, lactose, galactose, mannitol, sorbitol, xylitol,apsartame...and so forth....I am also now allergic to gluten, wheat, oats, barley, sorghum, teff, flax, goji, millet, ...........and chillies, xanthum gum..........seriously the new list goes on for three pages..............and the original list is even longer......I'm off to drown my sorrows in a glass of water....I think I am allowed that... :unsure:

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Ehtiar    106

I shall simply say.. Ouch.. and my condolences. I will avoid mentioning the exceptionally unhealthy "Super-Burger" I allowed myself last night.. :P

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Ehtiar    106

Just found out the next member of my merry band of schoolhood companions is leaving the fine club of bachelorhood and has successfully proposed to the love of his life. It's reaching that point where the engaged, married and/or are now parents are starting to outnumber the pure bachelors.. I guess this means we are all growing up... shifty.gif

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Andruid    22

Just found out the next member of my merry band of schoolhood companions is leaving the fine club of bachelorhood and has successfully proposed to the love of his life. It's reaching that point where the engaged, married and/or are now parents are starting to outnumber the pure bachelors.. I guess this means we are all growing up... shifty.gif

 

Errr....no it just means you have managed to hold onto your money and good sense.......and more importantly a good night's sleep.............. ;)

 

More importantly how was your burger? Seriously how good.....are we talking beef, steak or venison? :blink:  Ketchup? Mustard? Relish? Chillies?

 

Hey I will admit that on occasion I have been known to enjoy the aroma of the chocolate biscuit jar........ :wacko:

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Ehtiar    106

Well, it was a burger from the local kebab shop. It is literally called "The Super Burger."

 

Technically, it was 3/4 lbs of freshly cooked-in-front-of-your-face-meat (I think beef, but you never can tell....), with slices of cheese between each piece, slatherings of assorted salad : lettuce, slice tomato, onions, pickles, a few other odds and ends, some mayonnaise and relish, all between two lightly toasted baps...

 

Heh, I was actually at a wedding for one of the guys a few months ago. Of course, he married a girl from Mexico, so the theory went "English side of family about a dozen people with various friends, Mexican side of the family about a few hundred, along with various friends. So the wedding was in Mexico. About two hours drive outside Mexico City. I went over with him for three weeks since I was the Best Man. Interesting thing, they don't actually have a "Best Man" as such in Mexican weddings. So the best translation came out as 'Padrino de Boda" which has a more literal translation as "Godfather of the Wedding."

 

Then I had to give the Best Man speech in Spanish to  several hundred Mexicans, and about 8 English folks. And technically, I don't speak Espanola. ^_^

That and the father of the bride wandered over and was all "Tequila, Si?" in a very firm tone before hand, and you just don't say "No" to that senor.

 

I have no idea how I was able to be polite and charming by the end of that night. I'd had about 5 tequila shots, 3 beers, a glass of champagne, and about 4 or 5 mojitos. yet somehow I was still upright, talking sensibly, and even got asked by the Bride to safely escort her cousin back to their hotel. Which I did accomplish.

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Ehtiar    106

Heh, although pale-skinned English folks in formal wedding suits certainly stand out in the middle of a Mexican country town..

 

And this was the church:

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Ehtiar    106

Having one of those grouchy, tired, lost moments.  The trouble with freelance based work is the months of not getting work. Putting in weeks on a potential project only to have it not go anywhere, putting in the prep work, writing out the initial documentation, making the pitch and getting it rejected. Especially annoying when you do get feedback of "Oh yes, you've identified a problem we have, and we do think that you could offer us a solution. But we're not comfortable with how your methodology initially came from the MoD, so we're not going to go with it."  >_<

 

Surviving on the money I get from the government for being a primary carer for a disabled parent and having things like a blown up computer eat up your savings gets very tiresome when the actual job side of things has been going nowhere for month after month.

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Andruid    22

Being a Carer is tough, especially when the Government want to obstruct and ignore all the needs a Carer has, especially when even the Local Government ignore their legal obligations towards a Carer.  The Government and Local Governments should for once doing something constructive for these people. 

 

I used to be a Carer too, for my late aunt, it is a difficult task at times made harder by the agencies that profess to support and help the Carers and in fact do sod all....the only reason I coped was because of my own resources.....and I could ease the burden for her partner and her daughter.

 

:angry: :angry: :angry:  Sorry I have to leave this now......I am getting very very angry :angry: :angry: :angry:

 

 

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Ehtiar    106

It's fun when you get the "oh yes, we'd help you do x, y and z.. but as a family your income is too great to have us help. Of course, you don't actually have enough income to do it yourself, but you make too much for us to do it for you."    It's also annoying when you get the little tricks that they have to help catch benefit cheats. Appointments in offices that are incredibly awkward to get to, and if the mobility impaired person can get there, it's taken as proof that they aren't actually as disabled as they claim. On the one hand, it's understandable due to the people that do try cheating the system, but on the other it's really bloody annoying the hoops you have to jump through.

 

I had to drop out of my final year at uni to become Mom's carer, so 10 years on you tend to have a rather big hole in your CV. But I started helping out some guys I know doing research and analysis from home, then getting some experience on systems engineering, requirements analysis and such like. Kind of a very small consultancy company that's more a loose collection of freelancers then a "proper" company, with everyone there pretty much having another full time job.  Then the owner and MD got headhunted by one of the big defence companies, and then a year on the guy who took over was getting headhunted. Since work's been so problematic, they decided to have me become the MD to just keep the company ticking over, and so I'd have something more on my CV for the future.

Unfortunately as I said, with the cutbacks, the MoD dropping a lot of outside consultancy, and a lot of private businesses not being comfortable with systems engineering and modelling that came out of that area... There's just been no successful project pitches in a long time. Lots of ramming myself against a brick wall, picking myself up and throwing myself at the next wall without much to show for it.

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Andruid    22

My 'Uncle' fell by the wayside when it came to help in any form.....because they weren't married and if they weren't married they could not afford to co-habit on just his wages and the pittance the State would provide. Help was often refused on the grounds that 'he was too young and the local services do not cater for that age range'......Carer services where he lived was age dependant.......he was 34 when my aunt died at the age of 40.......and no-one likes to tell people what their legal entitlements are...like a 'Statement of Needs' report Social Services is suppoed to supply as a legal requirement. It was pathetic.....this is the man that spent his days working full time and caring for my aunt for the rest......holding her head as she vomited regularly......and I don't mean now and again.....for the last seven years of her life my aunt could not mover her head or close her eyes without vomiting even with the anti-emetics they pumped into her.

 

Nope sorry....still seriously fuming here........... :angry:

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Ehtiar    106

Ex's who come back into your life. Especially when they're the Grand Ex of Ex's.  To find out how you are, apologise over how things ended, and let slip that they still happen to love you to a point.. even if they're now happily married and have kids. >_<

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